Comments for A Worthy Discussion http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com Where faith, real life, and theology intersect Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:11:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on A Generous Orthodoxy – Brian Mclaren by aworthydiscussion http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/623/#comment-354 aworthydiscussion Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:11:21 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=623#comment-354 yeah quite true, I don't think there was a denomination he didn't swing at! I found the tone very negative, and lacking in any decent critical reflection. While things rang true, it was mostly at a surface level and I found myself saying a lot of times "Well thats how it may appear, but its not true to say its all like that..." yeah quite true, I don’t think there was a denomination he didn’t swing at! I found the tone very negative, and lacking in any decent critical reflection. While things rang true, it was mostly at a surface level and I found myself saying a lot of times “Well thats how it may appear, but its not true to say its all like that…”

]]> Comment on A Generous Orthodoxy – Brian Mclaren by Mason http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/623/#comment-352 Mason Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:04:13 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=623#comment-352 I read Generous Orthodoxy a few years ago and I think you're right that McClaren gives a very reductionist understanding of different traditions/denominations. There were things that rang true in the book, but he's written better for sure. All in all I think this one got more press because it takes a swing at pretty much everyone. I read Generous Orthodoxy a few years ago and I think you’re right that McClaren gives a very reductionist understanding of different traditions/denominations.
There were things that rang true in the book, but he’s written better for sure. All in all I think this one got more press because it takes a swing at pretty much everyone.

]]> Comment on A Generous Orthodoxy – Brian Mclaren by Mason http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/623/#comment-351 Mason Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:03:41 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=623#comment-351 Thanks for this review Grant. I read Generous Orthodoxy a few years ago and I think you're right that McClaren gives a very reductionist understanding of different traditions/denominations. There were things that rang true in the book, but he's written better for sure. All in all I think this one got more press because it takes a swing at pretty much everyone. Thanks for this review Grant.
I read Generous Orthodoxy a few years ago and I think you’re right that McClaren gives a very reductionist understanding of different traditions/denominations.
There were things that rang true in the book, but he’s written better for sure. All in all I think this one got more press because it takes a swing at pretty much everyone.

]]> Comment on Are Spiritual Gifts for Today? (Part 2) by Hampers http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/are-spiritual-gifts-for-today-part-2/#comment-345 Hampers Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:31:07 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=540#comment-345 Thanks for sharing the information on spiritual gifts. It was nice going through it. Thanks for sharing the information on spiritual gifts. It was nice going through it.

]]> Comment on Melancholy by aworthydiscussion http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/melancholy/#comment-339 aworthydiscussion Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:49:18 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-339 Mason you and I are not that dissimilar. I too am normally very upbeat, unfortunately the pressures of life and the brokeness of this world sometimes get me down. I have come to accept that nothing in this world will satisfy me like Jesus will. I wish I could explain it better than that but over the past few weeks that has become more than just an apologetic aphorism. It's become a reality in my life. I am so grateful for the life I have. Everything I have is a gift from God. So I chose to engage in the world, to enjoy this good creation and to be a faithful witness to Christ not as a law, but as a response to Grace. BTW - I should update my currently reading column LOL - I finished those books ages ago....Right now I'm reading Gordon Fee's "Listening to the Spirit in the Text". He's a fantastic author. Mason you and I are not that dissimilar. I too am normally very upbeat, unfortunately the pressures of life and the brokeness of this world sometimes get me down. I have come to accept that nothing in this world will satisfy me like Jesus will. I wish I could explain it better than that but over the past few weeks that has become more than just an apologetic aphorism. It’s become a reality in my life. I am so grateful for the life I have. Everything I have is a gift from God. So I chose to engage in the world, to enjoy this good creation and to be a faithful witness to Christ not as a law, but as a response to Grace.

BTW – I should update my currently reading column LOL – I finished those books ages ago….Right now I’m reading Gordon Fee’s “Listening to the Spirit in the Text”. He’s a fantastic author.

]]> Comment on Melancholy by Mason http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/melancholy/#comment-338 Mason Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:38:25 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-338 "What I want from life is something it cannot give me." I can identify far too well with you here Grant. While I’m usually rather upbeat and easy-going, I also frequently have an underlying discontent with the world around me, this feeling that things are not all that it was said they would be. As time goes on I think that this is because the brokenness of the world leaves an angst that will not be resolved until the world is set to rights. “What I want from life is something it cannot give me.”

I can identify far too well with you here Grant.

While I’m usually rather upbeat and easy-going, I also frequently have an underlying discontent with the world around me, this feeling that things are not all that it was said they would be.
As time goes on I think that this is because the brokenness of the world leaves an angst that will not be resolved until the world is set to rights.

]]> Comment on Christianity in Crisis – Hank Hanegraaff by aworthydiscussion http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/575/#comment-335 aworthydiscussion Mon, 11 May 2009 20:38:49 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=575#comment-335 Yeah these teachings seem to prey on the weak and desperate Christians and not just the intellectually weak. Hannegraaff tells the story of biblical scholar who's child had autism, and they took him to a meeting to receive a healing. However he was denied entrance to the stage by security guards. Apparently only people who had been healed already could receive prayer. Most of those meetings start with 2 hours of music that is incredible repeditive. They don't sing more than a couple songs either. It scares me how much these movements mirror cults. Yeah these teachings seem to prey on the weak and desperate Christians and not just the intellectually weak. Hannegraaff tells the story of biblical scholar who’s child had autism, and they took him to a meeting to receive a healing. However he was denied entrance to the stage by security guards. Apparently only people who had been healed already could receive prayer.

Most of those meetings start with 2 hours of music that is incredible repeditive. They don’t sing more than a couple songs either. It scares me how much these movements mirror cults.

]]> Comment on Christianity in Crisis – Hank Hanegraaff by Mason http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/575/#comment-334 Mason Mon, 11 May 2009 12:44:12 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=575#comment-334 *lot of times *lot of times

]]> Comment on Christianity in Crisis – Hank Hanegraaff by Mason http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/575/#comment-333 Mason Mon, 11 May 2009 12:43:48 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=575#comment-333 I've seen far too much of that theology permeating the church as well. A lost of times it just seems like people are baptizing materialism and greed and calling it Christianity. Ironic that the followers of someone who was pretty much reliant on the hospitality of others, was betrayed by his friends, tortured to death by the empire of his day and the leadership of his own nation, and who told his followers to expect no better if they were faithful to him, now expect that our faith ought to bring a big house and a new car and private school for little Tommy. I’ve seen far too much of that theology permeating the church as well.
A lost of times it just seems like people are baptizing materialism and greed and calling it Christianity.
Ironic that the followers of someone who was pretty much reliant on the hospitality of others, was betrayed by his friends, tortured to death by the empire of his day and the leadership of his own nation, and who told his followers to expect no better if they were faithful to him, now expect that our faith ought to bring a big house and a new car and private school for little Tommy.

]]> Comment on Wright on Justification – God’s plan Paul’s Vision by aworthydiscussion http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/wright-on-justification-gods-plan-pauls-vision/#comment-332 aworthydiscussion Sun, 10 May 2009 20:35:53 +0000 http://aworthydiscussion.wordpress.com/?p=571#comment-332 Not yet, haven't got any funds to order it LOL - just waiting for the Library to get it so I can get it out. Is it worth it? Not yet, haven’t got any funds to order it LOL – just waiting for the Library to get it so I can get it out. Is it worth it?

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